Iatrogenesis

Political Pwnage


Never been a big fan of Chris Matthews' show. The very premise of "Hardball"—and all other shows of its ilk—really irritate me. He takes two polar opposite viewpoints and encourages them to argue it out. It seems to always end up with the guests shouting over each other, and with Matthews shouting over them both. As a viewer it makes me with I had a mute button for each of their microphones. Actually it just makes me seldom watch the show...

I don't know if getting such outspoken and outrageous guests actually increases ratings. But it most definitely does little to advance public discourse beyond the same tired old talking points that each side repeats ad nauseum.

Yesterday's show should have been no different. On the Red side we have radio blowhard Kevin James, and on the Blue side we have a guy from Air America, a.k.a. Rush for knee-jerk Lefties.

Things got off to a typical talking points start—same ol' really intense boring crap. Then Matthews completely PWNs Kevin James. Here's a guy who spends hours on the radio saying the same thing over and over —peppered with plenty of sarcasm and references to "Hitler" and "appeasement" and "9/11" etc. He probably makes fun of some suckers who call in with viewpoints that don't mirror his own.

But for all the time he spent talking about the topic in question**, he obviously never bothered to look any deeper than the talking point itself. I'm not surprised at all—blowhards make their bank by blowing hard, not by listening or discussing or moving closer towards a truth that transcends blind political allegiance. But I was pleasantly surprised by Matthews' calling him out. Sure it makes for great TV and it will likely become a viral video of the moment and all that. But hopefully it also accomplishes more than just destroying that guy's ego. Hopefully it opens some TV execs' eyes to just how tired all the empty political rhetoric is. Why not use some of those 24 hours of constant coverage for actual discourse?

On second thought, that sounds really boring. One PBS is enough.





** Background from wikipedia: Kevin James appeared on Hardball with Chris Matthews, debating with Mark Green of Air America Radio to discuss remarks made by George W. Bush's speech to the Israeli Knesset in which Bush made note of Idaho Republican Senator William Borah's statements in reference to not meeting with Hitler. Later in the same speech, although Bush did not mention Barack Obama by name, he drew what many observers interpreted as a comparison between Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler before World War II with Obama's expressed willingness to meet with leaders of U.S. adversaries. John McCain later connected the policies Bush spoke about with Obama and included a reference to Chamberlain.



Speaking on Hardball, James vigorously supported Bush's comparison and insinuated that Bush "should have been speaking in reference to Obama" even if he wasn't. Chris Matthews then asked James for a "history check", asking James, "What exactly did Chamberlain do wrong?" During the three minutes that followed, Matthews went on to repeat variations of the question a total of 28 times, and later specifically referenced the Munich Agreement.

Comments

Chris Tackett OnShakedown says...

sometimes you just want to punch.

Posted 16 May 2008, 2:04 p.m. Suggest removal

April Fleming dolores2175 says...

I had MSNBC on while I was cooking last night and got to see this. Matthews is no different than any other pundit most of the time, but I gotta say it was very funny to see this guy's ass handed to him.

Posted 16 May 2008, 2:31 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous Shelby says...

That guy is such a total tool. I've listened to him before. He clearly doesn't think about what he says too often.

Posted 16 May 2008, 3:37 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous smerdyakov says...

I'm still looking for a thoughtful conservative commentator/writer. Suggestions?

Posted 16 May 2008, 4:13 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous Snoop says...

Damm, U said thoughtful!!

to the thesaurus....

Considerate

Kind

Caring

Unselfish

Sympathetic

reflective

Crap!! nope not me.

Posted 16 May 2008, 6:36 p.m. Suggest removal

April Fleming dolores2175 says...

I like Andrew Sullivan's blog on the Atlantic Monthly website. He wrote a book (that I haven't read) called the Conservative Soul.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th...

He's not a typical conservative, though. A huge Obama supporter this year, and is openly gay. If that's not enough contradiction, he's also staunchly Catholic.

Posted 17 May 2008, 1:56 p.m. Suggest removal

Chris Tackett OnShakedown says...

April,

Sullivan is one of my favorite bloggers, mainly because he is so impossible to categorize or stereotype. His ability to hold seemingly contradictory views and/or not fit the mold, yet still be able to explain why those contradictions exist and actually make sense doing so gives him a more credible voice, in my opinion.

Posted 18 May 2008, 10:57 a.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous Shelby says...

I'd say Limbaugh but I think Chris might come up with 15 quotes and ask me to defend them in Rush's name. Same with Hannity.

So.........

dot dot dot

Posted 18 May 2008, 8:19 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous jd says...

Posted 19 May 2008, 8:29 a.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous duplenty says...

Shelby -

You consider Rush or Hannity to be thoughtful?

Posted 19 May 2008, 10:45 a.m. Suggest removal

Chris Tackett OnShakedown says...

i'm w/ duplenty, just bc they are saying a lot, doesn't meant they are thoughtful. Though, you could argue they are thoughtful in that they are thinking of ways to strategically lie, trick rubes and increase their ratings.

Posted 19 May 2008, 1:43 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous Shelby says...

I find much of what both of them say to be important and meaningful. Things like revealing certain aspects of the left as *bad* just as DailyKos and similar people try to do the same with the right.

To assert that their primary goal is to increase their ratings (and POWER!) by "strategically lie"-ing and tricking "rubes" is absolutely ignorant. Implying that anyone who agrees with some of their opinions is a "rube" is thoughtless and reactionary.

Posted 19 May 2008, 2:52 p.m. Suggest removal

Chris Tackett OnShakedown says...

obviously not everyone that listens to them is a rube, just as the same couldn't be said for their counterparts on The Left. But there are plenty on both sides and I think commentators like that appeal to and cater to those type of listeners.

You will not find much fair analysis on either of those guys' programs. Republican Sullivan on the other hand, is incredibly thoughtful and able to consider and at times agree with policies from both sides of the aisle. There are def. others out there, but Limbaugh and Hannity are examples of something quite different.

Posted 19 May 2008, 11:20 p.m. Suggest removal

Anonymous DOTDOT says...

"To assert that their primary goal is to increase their ratings (and POWER!) by "strategically lie"-ing and tricking "rubes" is absolutely ignorant."

Agreed.

This gives their ilk way too much credit. Their primary goal is to increase their ratings by "entertaining" rubes. These folks are comedians, and they are excellent at what they do. While a stopped clock is correct twice a day, so too can these "pundits" parrot the occasional truthism or two. The only real rubes are the ones who take them seriously enough to form opinions based on their blathering.

Posted 20 May 2008, 8:41 a.m. Suggest removal

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